Group Loot Only in Vault of the Incarnates - No Personal Loot in Dragonflight Raid

Dragonflight Posted 15 days ago by Anshlun

Group Loot

While inside Vault of the Incarnates, Group Loot will be the only method of loot distribution. There is no option to select for yourself or your group to return to Personal Loot.
Some items, like professions reagents may still use Personal Loot where appropriate.
Need & Greed UI will return, and we’ll be monitoring feedback to make the rules around when and how players can roll on items be as intuitive as possible.

What is Group Loot?

The latter. Previously, the best way to target a specific piece of loot was to stack as many similar armor or weapon types as possible to increase the chances of that dropping. Now, even if you’re the only Rogue or Demon Hunter in your group, you have the same chance as anyone else of seeing an upgrade.

While this does mean it’s possible for a bow to drop in a group without a hunter, the belief is that this rewards groups for playing with a diverse set of classes - as well as the normalizing factor above (mail wearers from the last few years know how hard it is to get loot comparatively).

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Comment by dlbert2000So.... another huge loot change just to stop world first guilds from cheesing the loot system...Comment by DreadfuryDKIs this not just for tomorrow's/Friday's raid testing? The first blue post was literally preceded by "here's what's in for tomorrow."

Although I really hope he clarifies this.Comment by PhyixPugging XDComment by Yamr3I don't like this change at all. Makes me want to be lead internal raid teams only instead of the hybrid community and guild raid team we have every week.

They should've just removed the ilvl restriction for trading on Personal loot.Comment by MaskThis seems like what the community wanted. I've quite liked personal loot, but guess it has been unpopular for some raid teams.Comment by Abomlast thing I'm down with in 2022 is guild leader loot distributionComment by OceanstideThe change that needed to happen was personal loot without trade restrictions. Now instead of having loot we need but can't trade, we're going to have loot we can't even use.

As a heroic raider, as long as M+ gear is still better, I don't really care, but the casuals in the guild are going to be pretty pissed when useless crap is dropping, which is a far worse situation than the current of getting some M+'rs hand-me-downs.Comment by TOMRUSStop this mess before it's too late.Comment by DranightSooooo

When we said Personal Loot would be better if you take the trade restrictions off, they interpreted it as "Let's remove Personal Loot AND trading restrictions."

Basically a repeat of reforging when we said that reforging would be better if Hit Rating wasn't a thing, then they decided to remove both.Comment by ThanodesHonestly this is only good in a guild setting and should only be toggleable if you are in a guild raid as an option if people wanna use it, I like personal loot way more and its worked out fine .. what they should do instead is just remove trade restrictions on tradable gear instead since 99% of the time people will just give away loot they don't need anyway even if its an ilvl upgrade if its not useful to them. Like do you know what kind of chaos this is gonna bring to pugs if everyone can just roll on stuff.Comment by Wolfwood67What an horrendous change. The fact that the raid leader friends will be getting their loot first always annoyed me as hell back in the day.
If you didn't want RWF groups to stack classes for loot share, just add some kind of restriction, but going back to this is too bad for the raiding community.
I guess I'll have to blow the dust from the word "ninja" again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Comment by Oritaku77While this does mean it’s possible for a bow to drop in a group without a hunter, the belief is that this rewards groups for playing with a diverse set of classes - as well as the normalizing factor above (mail wearers from the last few years know how hard it is to get loot comparatively).for some odd reasonComment by yaminooI don't like that system . Thats why I never play classic.Comment by RyskyWhile this does mean it’s possible for a bow to drop in a group without a hunter, the belief is that this rewards groups for playing with a diverse set of classes - as well as the normalizing factor above (mail wearers from the last few years know how hard it is to get loot comparatively).Comment by zomgzWhat an horrendous change. The fact that the raid leader friends will be getting their loot first always annoyed me as hell back in the day.
If you didn't want RWF groups to stack classes for loot share, just add some kind of restriction, but going back to this is too bad for the raiding community.
I guess I'll have to blow the dust from the word "ninja" again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Comment by SimplessClassic andy's ruining retail again...Comment by slemaireDeath to pugs.Comment by Oofaas a player that only pugs groups thats horrible to see, you should have just enabled a loot system that can change depending on what the raid wants SMFHComment by RyskyMaybe on top of that, if a piece of loot drops that doesn't pertain to your class / armor type, and primary stat, you just can't Need. You can Greed, I guess?Comment by Ryskyjoin a better guild

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